MR. WALLACE: Mayor Giuliani, I want to follow up on what Governor Romney said.
In New York City, you allowed illegals to report crimes and to seek medical treatment, you said in the interests of public safety. But in fact, you went a lot further than that as mayor. Back in 1994, you said the following: "If you come here and you work hard and you happen to be in an undocumented status, youâ€™re one of the people who we want in this city. Youâ€™re somebody that we want to protect, and we want you to get out from under what is often a life of being a fugitive, which is really unfair."
As president, would you continue to protect illegals from what you then called unfair enforcement of our borders?
MR. GIULIANI: Chris, you havenâ€™t really described the entire extent of the executive order. The first part of the executive order points out that the police should report all illegals suspected of committing a crime or who have committed a crime. In fact, the year before I was mayor the immigration service stopped taking names from the police department of people that the police department were reporting.
So the problem that I had was I had 400,000 illegal immigrants — roughly — in New York City, and I had a city that was the crime capital of America.
I had to do something intelligent with them. I didnâ€™t have the luxury of, you know, political rhetoric. I had the safety and security of the people of New York City on my shoulders.
So what I did was, I said — and I think this is a sensible policy — if you are an illegal immigrant in New York City, and a crime is committed against you, I want you to report that, because, lo and behold, the next time a crime is committed, it could be against a citizen or a legal immigrant.
I said if you are a child in New York City — of which we had 40(,000) to 50(,000) to 60,000 illegal immigrant children — did it make sense to leave them on the streets?
The federal government deported only 758 people that year from New York City. So the reality is, my programs and policies led to a city that was the safest large city in the country. So they must have been sensible policies.Transcript of the Fox News Republican Presidential Candidates Debate - New York Times
However, Federal failure or not, Giuliani was on the illegals' side—ask Heather Mac Donald:
Former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani sued all the way up to the Supreme Court to defend the cityâ€™s sanctuary policy against Congressional override. A 1996 federal law declared that cities could not prohibit their employees from cooperating with the INS. Oh yeah? said Giuliani; just watch me. He sued to declare the 1996 federal ban on sanctuary policies unconstitutional, and though he lost in court, he remained defiant to the end. On September 5, 2001, his hand-picked charter revision committee ruled that New York may still require that its employees keep immigration information confidential to preserve trust between immigrants and government. Six days later, several former visa-overstayers conducted the most devastating attack on the city and the country in history. Center for Immigration Studies The Fallout from Crippled Immigration Enforcement, June 2004