Big Jim: “By 11 oclock there was at least 100, 200 black youths [inaudible], just rampaging, every shop — “

Reporter: “You’re not being stereotypical there?”

Big Jim: “No, absolutely…”

Reporter: “Are you sure that they were black? I’m sure they weren’t all black, were they? It doesn’t make any sense …”

Big Jim: “OK, then. Let me just say they weren’t all black. One of them was a white guy there. I was.”

Reporter: “Well, there were probably other white guys there as well.”

Big Jim: “I didn’t see any.”